{"id":370,"date":"2017-11-24T23:58:56","date_gmt":"2017-11-24T22:58:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/?p=370"},"modified":"2017-11-24T23:59:44","modified_gmt":"2017-11-24T22:59:44","slug":"ryzen-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/?p=370","title":{"rendered":"Ryzen, Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Introduction<\/h3>\n<p>Since the arrival of my new\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/?p=317\">Ryzen system<\/a>\u00a0I had problems with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/?p=326\">random crashes.<\/a>\u00a0Seems it&#8217;s a memory timing problem, at least that&#8217;s what Google suggests. I bought a 16GB Corsair Vengeance memory kit, consisting of 2x8GB RAM bars, a suggestion from a colleague. She&#8217;s using the same ASUS-board with that memory without problems, but her box isn&#8217;t running 24\/7. It&#8217;s a Win10 Gaming PC.<\/p>\n<h3>Take 1<\/h3>\n<p>First thing to do: Update the BIOS, or UEFI, as it&#8217;s called &#8216;nowadays. Of course that didn&#8217;t help. Also, the changelog wasn&#8217;t very helpful (&#8220;improving stability&#8221;), thanks, ASUS!<\/p>\n<p>So I ventured out and and did some research on overclocking and memory timing. Turns out that Intel invented\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.intel.com\/content\/www\/us\/en\/gaming\/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html\">XMP<\/a> (Extreme Memory Profile). Basically, it&#8217;s timing data stored on the memory bar, read and used by the BIOS\/UEFI. AMD didn&#8217;t want to pay the license fee, so they called their version AMP. ASUS, the mainboard manufacturer, called its implementation of AMP <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomshardware.co.uk\/answers\/id-3167421\/xmp-docp-eocp.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D.O.C.P.<\/a> (Direct Over Clock Profile).<\/p>\n<p>Full of hope, I turned on D.O.C.P. It set the timing data to the suggested values from <a href=\"http:\/\/dlcdnet.asus.com\/pub\/ASUS\/mb\/SocketAM4\/PRIME_X370-PRO\/PRIME_X370-PRO_Memory_QVL_20170704.pdf?_ga=2.55142763.1745921759.1511563052-98799911.1505950992\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this document<\/a>. It didn&#8217;t help. Guess when I bought the new gear:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/hadante_uptime_20171124.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-371 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/hadante_uptime_20171124.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/hadante_uptime_20171124.png 597w, https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/hadante_uptime_20171124-300x87.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The crashes have absolutely nothing to do with CPU load or temperature, quite the opposite. Mostly, they happen during the night, <em>after<\/em> backup \ud83d\ude41<\/p>\n<h3>Take 2<\/h3>\n<p>&#8220;What the hell&#8221;, I figured, and bought another memory kit. This time\u00a016GB G.Skill Flare X for only\u00a0\u20ac 197,46. After that the box ran for whopping 5 days without a crash, yay! It still crashed, though. This time I didn&#8217;t have X running and saw a kernel message that PID 1 (systemd) was stuck: &#8220;Soft lockup: CPU#3 stuck for 23s&#8221; (or similar). As always, I could only recover the box by hardware reset.<\/p>\n<h3>Take 2.5<\/h3>\n<p>So today (2017\/11\/24) I updated to the latest BIOS\/UEFI (PRIME-X370-PRO-ASUS-3203.CAP) and down-clocked the memory to 2199 or 2133Mhz, don&#8217;t remember the exact number. Let&#8217;s see how that turns out!<\/p>\n<p>[To be (dis)-continued&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Introduction Since the arrival of my new\u00a0Ryzen system\u00a0I had problems with\u00a0random crashes.\u00a0Seems it&#8217;s a memory timing problem, at least that&#8217;s what Google suggests. I bought a 16GB Corsair Vengeance memory kit, consisting of 2x8GB RAM bars, a suggestion from a colleague. She&#8217;s using the same ASUS-board with that memory without problems, but her box isn&#8217;t &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/?p=370\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Ryzen, Part 2<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[79],"tags":[119,118,120],"class_list":["post-370","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hardware","tag-d-o-c-p","tag-dram","tag-memory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/370","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=370"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/370\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":375,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/370\/revisions\/375"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=370"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=370"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tollana.d-tor.org\/notes-to-self\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=370"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}